NO NO NO
Hey, RamFel! Long time no post.
Here I was scrolling through the robo-post Viagra ads in this forum to see if today's Supreme Court oral arguments had sparked any activity. And what did I stumble upon? --
NO NO NO
I'd recognize that mating call anywhere. How the hell are ya, RamFel?
Actually, here's the whole paragraph:
NO NO NO, don’t answer back that it’s a civil right, or that “experts agree” or some other type of lame excuse. I mean show us all why same sex marriage serves some purpose. Show us what the intent of same sex marriage is? Show us some benefit of same sex marriage.
I know from experience that to answer one of your questions as if you
really wanted to know the answer is the same as butting my head against a brick wall. However, it occurs to me that some poor soul might have been checking in on this forum with an interest spurred by the recent Supreme Court activity. So ... I thought I would give an answer so that yours are not the only rants he sees.
Some benefit of same sex marriage?I can name a few. I'd say they're pretty much the same as benefits of opposite-sex marriage:
Benefits to the spouses involved:Mutual support, both emotional and financial, in good times and bad. A pledge of love, fidelity, respect and companionship.
Yes, you can get all of those without marriage but a legal institution makes the bonds tighter and more durable. Having the government behind the arrangement and having a contract involved makes the whole relationship harder to toss away when the going gets rough.
Plus-- family and friends are far more likely to stand behind a marriage and to discourage spouses from divorcing than they are to try to muster their forces to keep one of their own from splitting up with someone who's just a "friend."
And of course there are the hundreds of very significant financial benefits given by the government and reserved only for marriage, worth tens of thousands of dollars over the lifetime of the average couple. One small example of such government-sanctioned benefits would be the Social Security payments given to surviving spouses.
Benefits to Society in General:General stability of citizens in the society. People who have a spouse to count on in tough times are less likely to have to turn to society or government to bail them out in times of need.
My experience is that people I know who are married are much more stable in general than those who are not, whether they are family members, friends, neighbors, employees, or tenants. Married people are in general much more likely to show up for work, pay their rent on time, take care of each other, clean up their yards, look after their kids and in general be responsible citizens.
If they need to gripe (or scream or cry) at midnight there is someone there to listen and they're less likely to call me. If they get a wild or dangerous idea in their head there is someone in the same house to offer advice before they run off and get into trouble by themselves.
Of course there are exceptions, but the married people that I know, am related to, work with, and deal with tend to be much more stable and this is a great benefit to me and to my community in general.
RamFel, I know your story:
- it’s a sin (talk to my preacher),
- it's not natural (neither is your computer),
- it’s not meant to be (sez you),
--but not one of the marriage benefits I've listed has anything at all to do with the sex of the spouse.
The plain fact is that I've answered your question and have listed a number of benefits to same-sex marriage above. Of course, you could have gleaned all that information from responses that have been directed to you in this forum already.
From what I've seen of your posts in the past, RamFel, you're not really interested in what benefits people or society. You're merely interested in forcing your rules upon your neighbors.
